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Ep. 47. The Chaos Tax Is Slowing Your Org Down
Rodney and Sam dig into one of the most undertalked sources of organizational drag — the chaos and learned helplessness created by founders and leaders who mistake speed and control for momentum.
AUA: What Keeps Teams Together When AI Does The Work?
Rodney and Sam explore what it takes to preserve shared purpose and human connection as AI takes on more and more of the actual work.
AUA: What Should L&D Do About AI Right Now?
Rodney and Sam unpack how L&D can build capabilities—not just content—in the age of AI.
Ep. 44: Forget ROI - The Ethical Case for Good Org Design
Rodney and Sam unpack why “it’s profitable” isn’t a high enough bar for how we design work in 2026.
Ep. 43: Dual Transformation Is The Future…And Nobody’s Prepared
Rodney and Sam explore why companies struggle to reinvent their core business while building what’s next—and what it actually takes to pull it off.
Ep . 41: Why Your AI Strategy Stalled with Greg Shove
Rodney talks with Section CEO Greg Shove about why enterprise AI adoption is stalling, why “AI layoffs” are often cover, and what it actually takes to redesign work for the intelligence age.
Ep. 38: Running Better Experiments at Work
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why most “experiments” at work aren’t experiments at all—and what it really takes to learn your way into the future of work.
Ep. 36: What AI Is Teaching Us About Ourselves
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore how AI is exposing every flaw in the way we work—and how to use it to redesign systems, not just speed up the broken ones.
Ep. 27: Everything Can’t Be Priority One
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why prioritizing everything means prioritizing nothing, what keeps teams from letting go, and how to make space for the work that actually matters.
Depthfinding Ep. 7: From Leadership to Stewardship
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why our traditional management playbooks keep failing us and how rethinking “leadership” from the ground up is the future.
Depthfinding Ep. 5: The Midnight Zone - Experience, Emotions, and Reactions at Work
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore how the deepest forces shaping an organization live in the Midnight Zone—where individual experience, fear, ambition, and emotional undercurrents drive (or block) real change.
Depthfinding Ep. 2: The Sky - Threats and Opportunities
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why most organizations stay heads-down in the day-to-day, how that creates blind spots that lead to org debt and misaligned strategy, and what a regular practice of looking up and outward actually looks like.
Ep. 22: Founder Mode vs. Manager Mode is the Wrong Question
Rodney and Sam dig into how “founder mode” actually shows up in practice, where it causes more harm to an organization than good, what it means when real leadership seems to be left out of the discussion entirely.
Ep. 20: Psychological Safety Starts With Your Leadership Team
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why psychological safety in organizations has to start at the top, and why it’s harder than it sounds.
Ep. 15: This Workshop Could Have Been A Meeting
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore the ways in which corporate workshops can go sideways and how to plan memorable off-sites where things actually happen.
Ep. 13: Leadership Teams of the Future Act Like Org Designers
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why most leadership teams still operate like it's the 1950s — and how that stagnation blocks the rest of the organization from becoming more adaptable and resilient.
Ep. 11: The Ones Who Care The Most Will Leave You First
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin unpack why those most eager to evolve an organization are also the most likely to leave.
Ep. 10: RACI Is The Wrong Answer To The Right Question
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin take RACIs and other accountability matrixes to task for not delivering on their promises.
Ep. 8: Traditional Consulting Sold You a Great Idea. Now What?
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig into what traditional consulting promises and what it does and doesn’t deliver.
Ep. 6: If You’re Faking It, You Won’t Make It
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin explore why we struggle to talk about our feelings around change and how it’s holding us back from true transformation.